lative truth worlds are.. and for some are not.. is, has not been seen and seems to have been to have been without being is as zen is seen it is your interpretation that makes things as they seem all concepts are truth to human interpretation. knowlage and experience are truth to a human mind experience and knowlage ov nothing is zen language comes from the need to share. -/\- 1:39am 11-4-98 HB,CA